![]() I'm more puzzled how someone who didn't know what "TRF" meant on Nov 22,2014 while they were on it and was asking the "TRF" members if Hong Kong was a good place to buy a new watch a day earlier, all of a sudden become an expert on selling conditions based on ebay standards. I think that the OP question is a good one, its the fact they he and only he is telling everyone how they should use the words "mint condition" according to Ebay is the thing that sit uneasy with me. Like we always say: BUY THE SELLER FIRST! We all know that its buyer beware when making any purchases on this and other forums. But he didn't use the words "New" or "LNIB", And it was spot on, you could not tell it from brand new. Here is one that was for sale and it used the "mint Condition" to describe it. Since this is not "Ebay" most sellers/buyers use the Time Zone rating as guidelines. So there needs to be some entity to put us all on the same page or close to it. There can be a 1000 answers to what it really mean. I truely think that you can never really tell the condition through pictures only, plus everyone has their idea of condition. ![]() It is not fair to the seller who are using the term (mint) correctly, it makes their product sound inferior because they are using the term correctly compare to those who have the term more "loosely" I do run across sellers here that would advertise a watch as "near mint" or "95% mint". ![]() Now I say we should use "mint condition" like how every body else is using it. It is in the BEST possible condition a product can possibly be in. An object described as in "MINT CONDITION" means, literally, that the item looks as if it just came off the assembly line in the factory that there is not a single defect of any kind in the product. Unlike terms such as "good" or "excellent" which could mean different things to different people, "mint" has a very precise meaning. Other collectors quickly adopted the term. The term "mint" as an adjective was coined (no pun intended) by numismatists to indicate that a coin looked as if it had just been minted. SUMMARY: "Mint" means perfect, if the item's not literally in perfect shape, it's not mint. I don't particular like to quote ebay, but they have a pretty good summary. Mint condition have a very specific and legal meaning. They advertised a watch and describe the the condition of the watch to be mint condition and use it as a selling point. While I don't believe that there were believe dishonest. The reason I bring this up is that I recently ran across at least two seller here (which shall remain nameless).
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